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In fact, with the invention of the internet there is more free expression now that any time in history. I don't really understand how having protests in a zone is "repression". I find most of the above commentary confusing to say the least. Lord Metroid 17:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC) Sorry for the delayed reply, but I didn't see these comments until now. I don't think the founding fathers had this kind of practice in mind when they wrote the 1st Amendement. Specially considering how the federal government is just out of control post-9/11.
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Lord Metroid 17:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC) I haven't review the article so I can't comment on the NPOV, however this is a very loaded topic. Hence the government is legally obligated to obey the people's wishes or otherwise commit fraud through the oath of office/service they taken and/or treason against the country. Because the government is owned by the people and not the other way around. 66.81.49.203 No repression is necessary in a free country. Why call them anything else? The major debate is not whether or not they are repression, but whether they are necessary repression. Jasontheperson 00:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC) I don't know it doesn't seem incredibly POV to me. Also have to agree that this article does need cleaning up some. Your "weasle words" may be another's absolute truth. Why undermine freedom by downplaying the reality of Bush's behavior with weasle words? 4.250.168.43 07:43, 14 January 2007 (UTC) Reality is relative.
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We don't present the positive side of ****** ****** to my knowledge. Jayzel 18:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC) The very existence of wikipedia as a free (as in freedom) encyclopedia is a non-neutral statement about the values of knowledge and freedom. These extended excerpts desperately need to be summarized in your own words to remove the POV aspects - if they are to be kept at all.
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As marches began, police would emerge from their hiding places-building vestibules, parking garages, or vans-and corral the dissenters with orange netting that read 'POLICE LINE – DO NOT CROSS,' establishing areas they ironically called 'ad-hoc free speech zones.' One by one, protesters were arrested and detained-some for nearly two days." The NYPD tracked every planned action and set up traps. One of the more egregious examples of this, in addition to the extended quotes repeating the wording on protestors signs and shirts, is this passage: "The policing of the protests during the 2004 Republican National Convention represents another interesting model of repression. The multiple use of extended excerpts from editorials by non-neutral activists without attribution is without a doubt POV pushing (And brings it to a whole new dimention here at Wikipedia). Sorry, but after thinking about this for a while, I have decided to add the tag. (Think what would happen to Yellowstone if Britney Spears had a concert there) It doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me that that mandate includes setting aside specific areas for political demonstrations. The National Parks Service is responsible for regulating traffic through the parks, to prevent damage. Regards, - Jayzel 05:01, 4 January 2007 (UTC) That's pretty easy to figure out. It's in San Francisco so it has nothing to do with the president and Secret Service and I don't understand how that sign protects the land. I shoulda guessed regarding the Washington U pic. Raul654 04:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC) Thanks for the reply. As to the Muir Woods pic - the sign itself seems to imply it was the National Parks service (probably for the protection of the land itself). What's up with the photos at Washington University and Muir Woods National Monument? Who authorized these free speech zones and why? Anyone know? Regards, - Jayzel 04:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC) As to the Wash U pic - Presidential candidates are given secret service protection (and have been since Jthe day after RFK was assassinated). Why no mention of China or the 2008 Olympics? īillyTFried ( talk) 20:24, 30 November 2011 (UTC) What's the significance of the photos